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Thursday, September 27, 2007

Cops shoot another NZer dead


Alt Tv/Fleet FM Breakfast News Comment
Cops shoot another NZer dead
Police shot and killed a man in Christchurch last night after being called to a domestic incident. The incident began in a house near inner-city Avonside Drive, where a 37-year-old man was reported to be smashing a flat with a hammer. When police arrived, he was in nearby Stanmore Rd attacking a vehicle with the hammer. Police said he was shot at 8.36pm, and died at the scene at about 9pm. A resident told One News he heard what sounded like someone kicking and banging a car, then what he described as four gun shots. Ummmm, if all this guy had was a hammer, why did the cops shoot him dead? Why didn’t they call the dogs and set them on him if he wasn’t going to put his hammer down? Do we really want an ill trained Police force (who if not participating in questionable sadomasochistic gang rapes) shoot citizens at the drop of a hat? It might be a bit quick to jump to conclusions, but seeing as the Police Complaints Authority (where cops investigate cops in a none transparent secret manner) will simply put out another whitewash report, they may well be the only conclusions one can get.

38 Comments:

At 27/9/07 9:03 am, Blogger Jeff said...

The guy sounded out of control and the police should not have to put them self in danger to take out a nutter.

However isn't this why they got the taser? So they didn't have to shoot people?

Before making any further judgement though we should wait for the full facts to come out.

 
At 27/9/07 9:17 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is precisely why they deployed the taser's, so the police would have the ability to incapacitate offenders without the use of leather force. let's see what all those anti-taser whinger's say now.

J

 
At 27/9/07 9:18 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how Bomber also doesn't want cops to have any alternative to firearms such as tasers which would have resolved this incident without harm. Next time someone trys to attack them with a hammer they should just runaway and hope like hell they can run faster than the guy chasing them.

Gotta love it how all the idiots such as Bomber will be coming out of the woodwork before any of the facts are actually known and proclaim why didn't they do this or that, why didn't they just shoot him in his little toe instead.

And your rape comments are getting a little bit old Bomber, they kinda lost the comedic or shock value the first 111003 times you used them, you need some new material or is that a bit to challenging?

 
At 27/9/07 9:25 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

An anon posted this before, so was this some proof you were looking for?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4213393a10.html

"Christchurch police are circulating a gory email that recommends officers shoot people armed with knives.

Under the heading "Why Cops Shoot Guys With Knives", the email contains stomach-churning photographs of a police officer with massive slashes to his back, chest and stomach.

The text of the email exhorts officers to shoot anyone with a weapon. "If you've got a knife, then you should die ... period."

The email has been forwarded to more than 30 officers and then to addresses that appear to be members of the public.

One man, disgusted by the content, forwarded the email to The Press, saying: "I got this terrible email today, which seems to be sourced from the police.

"It's disgusting that photographs of this nature are widely circulated and used in such an exploitative manner."

The Christchurch policeman from whom the email appears to originate wrote: "Have a look at these photos to remind ourselves why we have SRBAs (stab-resistant body armour) and should be wearing them."

The email continues: "To all the idiots out there who always say, 'Why did the cops have to shoot him? He only had a (insert your choice of weapons here, ie knife, bat, club, whatever). He didn't have to be shot'. To that, I respond, 'Tough crap ... shoot 'em'."

At least one of the officers forwarding the email was a senior sergeant.

Canterbury District Commander Superintendent Sandra Manderson said the officer who created the email had taken the images and the words from an American website.

The email was meant as a caution to officers to wear their body armour, she said.

"But he should have removed the words. They are totally inappropriate. He should have cut them out," she said.

Manderson said she was "not happy" that the email had been sent to members of the public, but it had not been sent outside the police force by a senior member.

National Party police spokesman Chester Borrows said the email was a product of "stupidity".

The images were "pretty gruesome" but "the guy who seems to have started it probably thought he was doing some good", he said.

"He was being a bit naive leaving all the red-neck, bigoted talk in there. The police don't have the public's confidence and it's slips like this that (make it worse)," Borrows said".
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now someone gets shot, over a hammer..... why did they use a taser or police dogs?

wasn't taser suppose to be the last resort?

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At 27/9/07 9:34 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The taser trial has been withdrawn, they don't have them anymore. A Police dog might not have been working or they didn't have time to wait for one. It was a domestic situation they can't really sit back and wait 30 minutes for a dog to get there not knowing whats happening to the women inside. The media and Bomber would love it , Police sit back and wait while women dies.

 
At 27/9/07 10:17 am, Blogger Jeff said...

I didnt relise the Taser trial had been withdrawn. Whilst I hated the things I thought they were needed in todays day in age where we have muppets running around with knives.

What they needed was a solid way of controlling the use of the taser.

 
At 27/9/07 10:18 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4216074a10.html

A man was shot dead by police during a domestic incident in Christchurch tonight.


Police were called to the incident at a house off Avonside Drive at 8.26pm.

A 37-year-old man was reported to be smashing a flat with a hammer. He then left the house and walked to nearby Stanmore Road.

Police were called and located the man attacking a vehicle on Stanmore Road with what appeared to be a hammer.

The shooting occurred at about 8.36pm on Stanmore Road.

A police officer was involved in the shooting, said police district commander Sandra Manderson.

The man died soon after 9pm.

His body was still at the scene late tonight.

The name of the dead man has not yet been released.

Police have cordoned off Stanmore Road from Avonside Drive to Armagh Street. Inside the cordon is another cordon holding a police dog van, ambulance, police cars and a body under a sheet.

A resident said he heard what sounded like a car backfiring at about 8.30pm followed by a rapid series of shots.

Ms Manderson said a homicide inquiry had begun into the incident.

"The homicide inquiry will be run parallel to the Police Complaints Authority (PCA) inquiry using separate teams of staff."

The PCA had been advised and would arrive in Christchurch tomorrow morning.

Ms Manderson said she had asked for the police kaumatua Rev Maurice Gray to ensure the cultural process of tapu lifting would be carried out correctly when the scene examination was complete.
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what women? anon.... was there and invisible one/

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At 27/9/07 10:25 am, Blogger Bomber said...

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Funny how Bomber also doesn't want cops to have any alternative to firearms such as tasers which would have resolved this incident without harm. Next time someone trys to attack them with a hammer they should just runaway and hope like hell they can run faster than the guy chasing them.
Anon - why do you have to put words in my mouth to make your point? Is it because you hear what you want to hear? You sound like Lego or big bad trev - I have ALWAYS said I don't mind if the cops have laser guns or missle propelled rocket launchers - I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT we should have an open and transperant system of complaints, an independednt police complaints authority - PLEASE keep up anon, and the sadomasochistic gang bang police jokes never get old, only to those desperate to sweep it all under the carpet.

It was a domestic situation they can't really sit back and wait 30 minutes for a dog to get there not knowing whats happening to the women inside. The media and Bomber would love it , Police sit back and wait while women dies.
Hey Anon, could you read the story before commenting? The man shot dead was outside smashing cars.

 
At 27/9/07 11:02 am, Blogger dad4justice said...

The cops stayed at the coffee shop while a mad man slaughtered two young beautiful girls in Edgeware Road not long along . What a stuff up by cops !!

Regarding the 21st police victim ,oh silly me Sandra Manderson feminazi bitch , I forget it's the new domestic violence crack down , shoot first , wait to person dies and then everybody is happy . Give the officer a medal !!
Blue gun thugs make me sick !!

 
At 27/9/07 11:04 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its no wonder a judge doesn't think your fit to be a father.

 
At 27/9/07 11:06 am, Blogger dad4justice said...

Sorry but get your facts correct about that you anonymous lickspittle !

 
At 27/9/07 11:16 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given your mental state I'd say the judge did a good job.

 
At 27/9/07 11:47 am, Blogger dad4justice said...

Really it is you that has the coward mental state ?

A certain High court judge thinks my case should be a case study for a radical rethink into the adversarial family court system .

I normally don't post here , however I do like this post about police corruption .

 
At 27/9/07 3:15 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds to me like a " we want our Tasers back " shooting .
A witness ( civilian ) just said on radio news that the guy had his hands by his side when shot - he also said there was no attempt at CPR etc etc - sounds eerily similar to the Waitara shooting to me..
Of course the POLICE are holding an "independant " inquiry into it - GEE I wonder what they'll decide ? I 'll go bookie that they find the POlice officer felt threatened and the shooting was justified, cos they're really independant aren't they . Yeah right.
lets not mention the weird coincidence that this shooting follows closely on the heels of the leaked chch police email ( advocating shooting knife weilding crims ) - actually i don't think there would be a connection between the two but what a nightmare for Manderson the local Commisioner

 
At 27/9/07 3:21 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pat yourself on the back cops you are doing a great job in New Zealand, however I think most of our builders need to watch out from here on in "Builders of New Zealand do not carry your hammers down a public street" you have been warned.

 
At 27/9/07 5:01 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you are one hell of an example of a very poor journalist bomber. you are so disappointing. how can anyone comment and condemn the officer for his actions when none of the facts have emerged?? so some nobody says they didnt think the man was a threat..who the hell is he to say that? is his view correct? everyone witnesses events differently. wait for the details. you sad fat man.

 
At 27/9/07 6:08 pm, Blogger Bomber said...

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what has my weight got to do with this? Oh you are merely attempting to be insulting - okay - it wasn't a 'nobody' it was a 'witness' who said that we the man had his hands down when he was shot, and i was merely point that due to our current secret complaints system we won't know. I understand your anger, it can't be easy supporting cops these days

 
At 27/9/07 9:49 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Do we really want an ill trained Police force (who if not participating in questionable sadomasochistic gang rapes) shoot citizens at the drop of a hat? It might be a bit quick to jump to conclusions"

LOL Classic bomber. A master of contradiction

 
At 27/9/07 10:47 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh anon, you know just once i wish it was one of your family members that were killed by the police, then maybe just maybe one could feel what the victims family feels.... he was someones brother, Father, Uncle, you know, fucking regardless to what may of caused him to nut out... at least he took his shit out on a car and no someone else... the car can be fixed but this guy wont wake up now.

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At 28/9/07 6:04 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe, its depending on how many wankers like you would of turn up to say..... good on the police for shooting another police.... that would make it kinder ironic to start with...

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At 28/9/07 9:08 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So your empathy for the killing of another human being depends on what others say about him. Typical wannabe gangsta mentality.

"good on the police for shooting another police.."

Your making even less sense than usual.

 
At 29/9/07 12:06 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hated by most (why the fuck you even think you can give yourself a name i have no idea): this guy was shot because he was gonna smash the cop who had turned up to aid the female who called police. how does your little mind twist the reality of the situation and make it the cops fault that a guy is dead and oh how sad; yet if it was the cop dead or in a coma you would be fine with it and have no feeling for him at all. it cam,e down to 'him or me' and good shit, the cop came out tops. strange what meth does to a brain...

 
At 30/9/07 7:34 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pitied By Most.
There is a simple lesson to by learned here: if you don't want to be shot by police then don't charge at them with a hammer. Are you confused by this?

Your hatred of the police or any authority clouds any objectivity. This is evident to anyone who reads your posts and why no one takes you seriously.

Nobody answers your questions because they are stupid. Have you ever had experience with firearms, counterstrike excluded? Do you know how hard it is to shoot a small moving target like someone's legs as opposed to their torso in a high pressure situation?

I guess this is obvious to the rest of us but somehow not to you.

The officer did what was right to protect himself, other officers and members of the public.

 
At 30/9/07 10:01 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't answer the questions truthfully anon because it is true isn't it, the police could of used these things: Batons , pepper spray , Police Dogs.... the police you wish to protect so much FUCKED UP yet again, yet it only when its someone close to you that you and other anons would winge and fucking bleat about it... thats typical.

My hatred of the police comes from my experience with them, (now i am sure you'll add your shit right here) its a corrupt system, like I said in another post; I don't give a fuck if you don't care about it, I hand over cash to pigs on a monthly basis for info on raids etc etc. In my life I have only met 1 good cop, 1 thats it.

Anony you keep saying saying about counterstrike what the fuck is that... shooting someone in the legs is hard to do anon lol; what did the pig freak out close his eyes and let rip. Legs are the largest muscle group on the human body and thats small to you, I bet a 30 feet I could use a glock 19 to put 5-6 slugs in your legs, shit wanna try it? don't tell me, the offender being closer made it harder...yet the high pressure bit was a crack up; the man had a hammer not a gun... shit I've seen gang fights on TV with such weapons... yet a train cop couldn't handle the situation, without death... how about 3 cops? do they only do the brutal shit when your handcuffed or already in a cell?

THE PIG FUCKED UP, SHIT FACE IT, BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT BOY. I HOPE THE NEXT PIG THAT DOES LOSE IT, KILLS SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY, THEN LETS SEE WHAT TUNE YOU PLAY.

Glad you didnt accuse me of saying other shit you made up though, now that felt different.

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At 1/10/07 12:19 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

More classic Pitied By Most quotes:

"shit I've seen gang fights on TV with such weapons."

For all your much vaunted 'gang connections' this is the closest you've ever gotten - watching it on tv.

"I bet a 30 feet I could use a glock 19 to put 5-6 slugs in your legs, shit wanna try it?"

Still trying to play the big man are we? Talk is cheap on the internet because nobody can see who you really are - just another spotty loud mouthed punk.

"My hatred of the police comes from my experience with them, (now i am sure you'll add your shit right here) its a corrupt system, like I said in another post;"

Well done on the own goal. You prove my point once again. it's like shooting fish in a barrel with you.

 
At 1/10/07 7:14 am, Blogger hElL-b0y said...

Anon you not doing much here to Justify anything, The Police may of freaked out and killed the guy. I don't believe attacking a van warrants the call out of guns, if they knew they were heading into a volatile situation one would expect to see the present of police dogs.

so I agree with Hated here other steps could been taken in catching the offender. But I don't believe your interest in that at all, you have just tried to put down Hated's posts... through I would say it doesn't look good, your not justifying anything. making yourself look rather stupid, is that why you post anonymously?

The Police messed up yet again.

 
At 1/10/07 7:52 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon, whats wrong does your little world feel threatened, your police force you hold so dear is corrupt anon, do what you must to get through it, it sounds hard for you to deal with this facts.

For all your much vaunted 'gang connections' this is the closest you've ever gotten - watching it on tv.
Correct anon, the people I know and associate with use guns, not hammers of tomahawks screw drivers etc etc, was that hard for your little brain to taken in anon was it... shit I feel for you....

Still trying to play the big man are we? Talk is cheap on the internet because nobody can see who you really are - just another spotty loud mouthed punk.
Correct you are a spotted punk with a loud mouth, but theres hope for you anon; you learn well, talk is cheap, which is the reason I offered to prove to you a point; you say it hard lol for the trained police to shoot someone in the leggs (largest muscle group in the human body anon lol) I know at 30 feet I could shoot you in the legs, as I am sure other gun owners could too, hence why I offered to shoot you at that distance to prove to you my point, yet you say "TALK IS CHEAP" but don't want to try it... lol sounds like Legio haha haha
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I wanted to show you this anon because the last part of your post got quite weirdo... watch:

(COPY&PASTE)

"My hatred of the police comes from my experience with them, (now i am sure you'll add your shit right here) its a corrupt system, like I said in another post...."

That parts true

Heres your weirdo part
Well done on the own goal. You prove my point once again. it's like shooting fish in a barrel with you.
Woo now what the fuck was that about.... Say NO to drug anon

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At 1/10/07 9:08 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better watch out everyone.

Pitied by Most is a gang member with links to corrupt police officers, massive wealth generated from his vast criminal empire and the ability to kneecap a running target at 30 feet with a handgun.

Oh yes and don't forget the army of Maori revolutionaries prepositioned in an undisclosed location ready to wreck mayhem and chaos on the nation.

 
At 1/10/07 11:39 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHA anony your getting very desperate for attention chump lol

Oh yes and don't forget the army of Maori revolutionaries prepositioned in an undisclosed location ready to wreck mayhem and chaos on the nation.

Oh are we going back to making shit up and saying I said it lol

Desperate boy very desperate

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At 1/10/07 2:06 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pitied by Most:

"Oh are we going back to making shit up and saying I said it lol"

Recall this loser?
Making shit up are am I?

"..police centrals are a must the are the first line of defense for the general public, destroy them all, blow them to pieces.. Auckland Wellington, Christchurch & Invercargill, SIS must be included in this. Then the power grids, now you say there will be some pissed off people, and the point is what? we want mayhem, wide spread mayhem, whose going to control it? majority of the police will be DEAD.. Just think of the crims breaking loose.. next can be prisons, blow the walls and free every convict behind them.. this can go on & on.. But one icon must be on the list, it is that fucking Beehive, hopefully with them in it."

 
At 1/10/07 6:33 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH anon you miss parts out how typical.. just cut and paste to suit your story... that is desperate boy...

You forgot to post the part where I said "ASSUME WHAT YOU WANT ANON" I know you all read it... because all your imaginations went crazy... you all went on about the IRA losing, SAS and British lol Yet all I said about the IRA was "Maori could use the same tactics" thats it, I don't care if they lost, No one knew who they were or were they would strike next, they drove fear into the minds and heart of the people.. to the point the world took notice... IRA were secret about everything , no knew when or where that was the tactics I spoke of...

If Maori went to war that would be the best way to do it...

now what you posted was only part of the conversation Anony (VERY TYPICAL) I was ask how I would do it, which is parts of what you posted.... seems like an entrapment, but shit I don't care if it was anony.. you pricks get your jolly's neither way..

But believe what you want... your still be a dick either way..

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At 2/10/07 9:50 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talking loud and saying nothing.

As usual

 
At 2/10/07 12:23 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

is that it anon? truth hurt

GOOD

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At 3/10/07 3:11 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pissedon by Most:

"Me I come in here to comment on the issues"

Then why do you always feel the need to brag about how you bribe cops, own three houses, have a private army to blow up the powergrid and that you are part of a criminal organisation which sells drug.

I really don't need to say much as you provide the rope to hang yourself by. I just copy and paste and it speaks for itself.

later pond scum

 
At 3/10/07 6:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well shit anon you pricks always assume I am on the dole, taking drugs and live in south Auckland, plus most you anons and leggy, J, lil Trev all say the cops are so just... yet i know thats bullshit... because I pay 6 of them so it no a brag its true.

Anon if you feel you have won that good for you lol, it always just the little thought that you cant shake free of that makes you come back time and time again... you haven't proven anything have you, NO... but to help you move on ill say you won... your the champ chump..

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At 3/10/07 6:28 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"because I pay 6 of them so it no a brag its true."

Something is true because someone said it on the internet. WoW.

"live in south Auckland"

I was thinking more Glen Innes actually.

Agreed there is something which makes me come back. Maybe I get a sexual thrill from humilating you again and again and again yet you still want more.

 
At 3/10/07 10:30 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't care less if you believe me about the cops, they are getting more attention than us so called gang members, lol I love that write up in the paper today about the weapons lol now thats classic....

Personally I don't think you do a dame thing apart from make yourself look more like and idiot anon

but if you call, post about coming back for sexually thrills humiliating me ... you are more stupid than I gave you credit for....

GET HELP BOY BEFORE IT TO LATE

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At 4/10/07 4:01 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe i'll just build some bridges.

 

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